Episode 438 – It’s NOT The Jeepster We Wanted

This Week In Jeep: 

We were just kidding people

Last week we reported about the first mass Jeep gathering to take place since this covid epidemic first began. The annual Go Topless Day event fills the sands of Crystal Beach on the Bolivar Peninsula.  Galveston County sheriff’s office had their hands full last year when over 100 arrests were made and 400 calls were made to the local 911. We reported on this too, and in making light of it quoted the 2013 movie Wolf of Wall Street, when we said those are rookie numbers and that we need to get those pumped up. WE OF COURSE WERE JUST KIDDING! But despite our pleas for Jeepers to represent the JEep world in a positive light , there were still DOUBLE the arrests from last year, totalling 200 people taken into custody for offences ranging from DUI, disorderly conduct, public indecency, driving without a seat belt, assault, …and the list goes on. As if this isn’t enough, two people were shot at this year’s event. According to the A.P. the shooting happened Saturday, when a group of men started fighting, which led a group of nearby women to start fighting, and that’s reportedly when ((QUOTE)) “a husky male discharged a firearm into the mayhem and injured two of the men.”  Those two individuals were subsequently airlifted to the University of Texas Medical Branch at Galveston with non life threatening injuries. But stil, this is not the kind of reports we need to be hearing about after the first big clear weekend of lifted restrictions. I will say this though… In most of the pictures, videos and news clips I’ve seen from all this…. In every one of them, there were more ford trucks than anything else. I’m just sayin’ …. Maybe it’s not our fault… Still…

Here We Go Again (cue whitesnake)

If you are one of the tens of thousands of people who have been listening to this show for 5 or 6 years or more, than you are likely all too aware of my feelings towards FCA’s executive decisions over the years on which name badges from Jeep’s past are resurrected for whatever whimsy or hairbrained idea they come up with. I made no effort to hide my opinions on the regurgitation of the Cherokee name badge they slapped on the ass of the abortion that they released back in 2015. And when the “cutest yutest that ever was” was forced down our throats sporting none other than the iconic Renegade name badge from the CJ era, it was all I could do to contain my angst and disappointment over what was without question as much of a bad choice as the RE-use of the Cherokee name. Using the Renegade and Cherokee badges for two vehicles based on failing Italian car platforms is if nothing else a disservice to Jeep history and  not what I call paying homage to what made those names icons in the Jeep world. But I digress. As much as I would like to revisit old tirates, i’m afraid this report fall just shy of a full on deja-vu, as it seems there are rumors that FCA may once again festoon a renowned and cherished Jeep name badge from yesteryear on something that doesn’t deserve it. This oddly enough won’t be the first time this will have happened to….  “The Jeepster.” There have actually been five incarnations of the Jeepster name. The first was before Jeep was Jeep, when Willys-Overland unveiled the first Jeepster in 1948 as a more car-like take on the more rugged Jeep Truck. That effort only lasted two years on sale before retirement. In 1966, Kaiser visited the Jeepster’s grave to try again, this time targeting the Ford Bronco and Toyota Land Cruiser with a model that came in four body styles and remained on sale for six years, earning the respect and admiration of true blooded Jeep lovers everywhere for decades to come.  In 1998, Jeep showed off a Jeepster concept channeling the Willys-Overland version that, again, looked like someone gave Chrysler a Jeep to turn into a Chrysler, but for more money. It ended up resembling a dune buggy more than anything. Then, in 2018, Jeep took a Jeepster concept that channeled the Kaiser model to Moab for the Easter Jeep Safari. That was the red one with the white top that many of us very much wanted to make it to production. Now, for the fifth stab at it, FCA is announcing that Jeep has a 2020 Renegade Jeepster Edition on the way. So will this be a top of thine trim, or a limited edition with some never before seen tech? NOPE… To add yet another notch to the disservice to the name badge belt, the new Jeepster will be based on the bottom of the line, stripped down, entry-level Renegade Sport trim. Oh and if you want any other color than white, it will cost you a minimum of $245. History holds that the Renegade, like a few of the Jeepsters of yore, is a temporary application of something that isn’t going to last, and we will likely see it again in the future. But I don’t think anyone can argue that  this isn’t the return anyone would have hoped for the Jeepster name.

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Top 5: 

Top 5 Jeep Rules (stolen from a meme on Facebook…)

  1. Get in, Shut up, and hold on!
  2. Don’t tell me how to drive!
  3. Always watch for cops!
  4. Never tell me the odds!

And the number one Jeep Rule…

  1. No you cannot drive!

Jeep Life:

I posted a video April 1, 2018 on my Youtube Channel (see below) Top 5 Jeep Wrangler Easter Eggs, a tribute to the Willy’s Jeep. Back in 2010 Jeep “hid” easter eggs in the Wrangler as a tribute to the iconic Willy’s Jeep. I listed the Top 5 that I found in my Jeep and asked others to share their finds in the comments. Some were the silhouette of Willy’s Jeep on the wheels and the corner of the windshield. There was the Jeep grill also etched in the cup holder and there are many more. Jeep has placed these Easter Eggs in other Jeep models as well. A couple of days ago I started getting notifications of comments on this video from two years ago. Then I noticed the views jumped up a lot. In less than a week this video got 15 thousand views. I was like what in the world is going on. So I did some research. A 20 year old college student discovered an Easter Egg on her Jeep and said I didn’t know this existed. She posted it on Tik Tok.  By The Way TikTok is a video-sharing social networking service owned by ByteDance, a Chinese company founded in 2012.. It is used to create short dance, lip-sync, comedy and talent videos. HEEEEEELLLLLOOOO 20 year old college student where have you been. This story is even in the USA Today!!! WTF!!! I shared this 2 years ago and I never got an article in the USA today!!! So I decided to reach out to the USA Today “Trending Technology” reporter. I messaged him on Twitter. I shared that these Easter Eggs have been around for a decade, since 2010. They are a tribute to the Willy’s Jeep. The Jeep that won the War. I told him these young Jeep owners need to have a better understanding of these Easter Eggs. I hope he will dig a little deeper and elaborate on his story. I then tweeted him.  @BrettMolina23 those Jeep Easter Eggs have been around for a decade. Have to say I scooped you 2 years ago. LOL.  This new discovery by the 20 year old has rejuvenated my video. 15K views in less than a week. So  Now it’s all the rage for these young vehicle owners to share the hidden designs on their cars and Jeeps, sharing Easter Eggs on TikTok and Twitter. One TikTok user found a hidden spider design in the gas pump of their Jeep. Others have posted finding flip flop icons -The Renegade- lizard carvings – The Compass –  and drawings of miniature vehicles. HEEEEEELLLLOOOO that’s the Willy’s Jeep!  But do they know the Jeep JL Willy’s Edition when you turn up the gauge brightness level you will see an original Willy’s in the display. The Jeep Renegade trailhawk has dozens of these easter eggs. And I just discovered under the hood latch of my Wrangler it has 7 slots Yes 7! This college student wrote “Jeep was really trying to get me” with the laughing emoji. HAHA no they weren’t they were making a tribute to Jeep History! It had nothing to do with you.  She said in her video “So I bought my first car (IT”S NOT A CAR) and a fun fact about Jeeps is that they have a hidden animal called an Easter egg,” she continued: “Well, I couldn’t find my Easter egg for the longest time, and one day I was pumping my gas and I saw a spider coming at me. I realized it was my Easter egg.”  One tiktok user wrote  Dude it’s true 			</div><!-- .entry-content -->
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Nexen Roadian MTX Tire Questions

Since each host on the show has Nexen Roadian MTX tires, well except for Josh, several people have been asking us questions about the tires.

Words are important but sometime visual can answer many more questions.  Friend of the show Don Alexander from the Jeep 4×4 School and Jeep 4-1-1 Tips – Tricks -Tests – Techniques recent video show you what the Nexen Roadian MTX tires can do off road.



Episode 437 – Is the Wrangler Destined for IFS?

This Week In Jeep: 

Design Changes To the Wrangler! …Already?

Last week we reported on the crash test video released by the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety.  We posted up the link to the video, which showed the test vehicle (a 2019 Jeep Wrangler) rolling over onto its side during the small-overlap crash test. The video is pretty much going viral in the automotive world, mostly because it’s a pretty gnarly crash, and the Jeep’s crash test dummy occupant is otherwise unscathed. But also because this is apparently the first time a rollover has occurred in the history of this test, which the institute admits, is the hardest for automakers to pass.  (Way to set the bar Jeep.) Although the 2018 thru 2020 model year Jeep Wrangler JL got the highest scores possible in all other test categories, the “marginal” score on this test is something FCA was quick to respond to. Jeep’s parent automaker, Fiat Chrysler Automobiles, had immediately got in front of this and claimed that through their own testing, and out of the half million some odd Wranglers it’s produced in this model run so far, they’ve never heard or seen of any such vehicle characteristics as what the IIHS video showed. This week, things have changed slightly, and through a press release by an IIHS representative, they say that ((QUOTE)) “FCA has indicated that they are working on making changes to address WHY the wrangler flopped over on its side during this particular test.” OK, so now FCA is willing to accept the IIHS results, having disputed them a week prior, and now claims that they are going to (quote-unquote) “make changes” to the Wrangler’s design. It is of course entirely unclear what “changes” will be made to the Wrangler to help it perform better in this specific crash test, …..and all we could do is freak ourselves out by speculating and buying into the rumors that an IFS Wrangler is just around the corner, and may come as soon as 2022. (hahaha no.) Whether or not there will be drastic changes that will piss the entire jeep world off to no end and whether or not they will be implemented in future models, or addressed now through recalls is all up in the air. Maybe this has something to do with the death wobble issue? OH! It’s the sway bar’s fault!

Build Jeeps or Protect From Covid – Can We Do Both?

Although you my fellow Jeeper who is listening to this might be furloughed, still laid off, or otherwise unemployed, many around the nation are preparing to get back to work. From FCA’s Belvidere Assembly plant, to, the Warren Stamping Plant in Michigan and even the Windsor Ontario Assembly plant. Pretty much every single North American production or assembly facility is going to have workers who will be returning to a very unfamiliar landscape. In the wake of all this economic suicide there are going to be workplaces that are vastly different from what many are used to or even expecting given the crrent state of things. And it has just come to our attention that for the employees who are assembling our Jeeps, they’re going to find a large number of implementations that have been put in place for (what the powers that be are calling) “their protection.” On the assembly lines, there will now be marked in broad yellow boxes, divided areas to help workers maintain distancing protocols. Thick plastic sheeting and weld curtains have been hung down the length of some assembly lines to divide the workers on one side from spreading germs to the other side. Daily health screenings, double checked by security through specific mobile applications will be required before entry is allowed into any of the plants. ALL employees at ALL FCA North American locations will be required to take their temperature and complete regular self screening questionnaires as well. They’ve even gone so far as to install lexan or plexiglass dividers in all break areas to prevent workers from sitting or eating next to each other. Chairs have been strategically blocked off and dividers installed on top of tables to force the separation employees.  In areas where the work requires two employees inside of six feet from each other, plastic sheet barriers are to be clipped into place along various points of the vehicles chassis dividing the airspace between the workers. This is just the tip of the iceberg.  I’m sure these and the other insane measures that companies like FCA are taking to contro, ii mean protect their workers isn’t going to affect morale or productivity in any way.

Go Topless Jeep Event THIS WEEKEND in Texas!

Thousands of Jeepers and partiers alike are expected to pack the sand of Crystal Beach on the Bolivar Peninsula this weekend for the annual Go Topless Jeep Weekend event. Galveston County Sheriff’s Office deputies will be working overtime and getting assistance from the Texas Department of Public Safety for the event, according to Galveston County Sheriff Henry Trochesset. Thirty state troopers will be sent to the Bolivar Peninsula to help with the event as well. According to the sheriff himself, he says that the event last year was overwhelming. There were more than 100 arrests at last year’s Go Topless event, and six individuals were flown off the peninsula to hospitals by Life Flight helicopters. Deputies responded to more than 400 911 calls in that one weekend alone. (C’mon Jeepers! We can do better than that!) Although officials believe they are better prepared this year, they also know that trying to enforce social distancing will be almost impossible. Over the last several weeks, more and more people have been showing up to the beach in what is likely a case of mass cabin fever. According to the sheriff’s office, most of them have been families and have been well behaved. But his office worries about the group of people that are due this weekend. Billboards, posters and a plea from the sheriff himself say that ((QUOTE)) “if you wouldn’t do it in front of your parents and your grandparents, don’t come down to the beach and do it.” Great advice and well put sheriff. I’m going to ask that if there ARE any Jeep Talk Show fans down there, that you help represent the show and the Jeep world as a whole in a positive light. Have fun going topless this weekend in Texas.

Jeep Life:

Tammy had a pretty good Mothers Day. She was off roading in Colorado on Chinamans Gulch Loop. It wasn’t just an everyday off road trip. This was a special one. She went wheeling with a JTS listener.  {audio clip} Ron has a little addiction. He has 7 Jeeps. A stock 1949 willys cj3a, 1952 Willys m38 (which is the one he wheeled on Sunday), a 1952 cj3a, 1975 cj5 – snow plow Jeep, 1980 CJ7 (had since high school) Plus 2 Scramblers which are his absolute favorite Jeep of all time. He’s starting the rebuild of one this winter to be his over-landing Jeep. He’s collecting parts and will soon start that project.  Ron specifically picked the trail Chinaman’s Gulch Loop knowing Tammy’s fear of heights/ledges and shelf roads. Despite that, they plan on wheeling again soon. If your interested in wheeling with Tammy or want to share with her your own Jeep life story, send an email to info@jeeptalkshow.com

Tech Talk With Jeep Talk: 

Robbing The Fan To Pay The Lights

If you blow a fuse on the road or out on the trail and you find yourself unprepared, you DO have options. Not all of us carry around a full electrical repair kit, although it may be a good idea to put one together if your off road kit doesn’t have one already. So it may come as no surprise that I’ve heard stories of Jeepers who have had to call for a tow because they didn’t have a spare fuse.      Shocking – I know. 			</div><!-- .entry-content -->
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Episode 436 – West Coast Wheeling Better Than East?


This Week In Jeep: 

Jeep Wrangler Tips Over In Crash Test

So if you’re a Jeeper, then undoubtedly Google’s search engine algorithms will inevitably route more Jeep and offroad related news and advertising your way.  If that’s the case, then you will have likely noticed that this week it was petty hard to ignore the onslaught of reports about the latest IIHS (Insurance Institute for Highway Safety) Video. This video is one of those infamous white room crash test videos where this time, a 2019 Jeep Wrangler JLU is put through what is called a small overlap front driver-side crash test. The vehicle is hooked up to a device that pulls it along a specified trajectory to initiate a specific kind of crash against another object.  In this test, the Wrangler is catapulted at an immovable object, basically a giant solid steel wall set in a way so that the Jeep would strike the wall on the drivers side, but not all of the drivers side, just about 1/4 of it. In 2012, the IIHS added this specific test to its criteria for testing a vehicle’s overall safety rating. The test you’ll see in the video is designed to replicate what happens when the front left corner of a vehicle collides with another vehicle or an object like a tree or utility pole. Unfortunately for the Wrangler, it’s pure beefyness, and overall resiliency is proven once more ….as it just plows right through the accident and keeps on going….. On its side. And it kept on going, despite being crashed and knocked down on its side, until it slid into a barrier and was stopped. I personally call that a prime example of tenacity and determination. But the IIHS calls it a safety hazard, and ((QUOTE)) “presents an additional injury risk beyond what the standard criteria are intended to measure in small overlap frontal crash tests. A vehicle tipping onto its side is not an acceptable outcome” Meh..What do they know?   Unfortunately, it’s this “flop” is why the institute downgraded The 2019 Jeep Wrangler to a marginal rating in that particular test. It’s not completely all bad though. It is still one step above Poor, which is the worst rating, so it could be worse i suppose. AND what is worth mentioning, is that the passenger safety cage and driver injury measurements were all given a Good rating despite the Jeep flopping in the crash.  “Good” is the IIHS’s highest rating it can give in its tests. There is no gooder, or goodest, despite what your 5 year old may have told you. What this means is that despite going for a ride on your side, you’ll be well protected,  having likely not sustained life threatening injuries, AND be in a situation where you can extricate yourself from the vehicle.  And you know what they say…. Any crash you can walk away from…  In addition to the “we don’t want to but we kinda have to” rating in the one test, the overall full results for the 2018 through 2020 Jeep Wrangler… (drum roll please) … show it was rated Good on four of the five crash tests. In a response, FCA stated that it has produced more than 500,000 of these Wranglers, and that out of those half million Jeeps on the road, FCA is unaware of any incidents that correlate with the vehicle dynamic portion of the IIHS test result. In other words, FCA is basically saying, “that’s a cute little test ya got there – but we don’t think so.” Does that mean the IIHS skewed the test? Was the Jeep propelled faster than other vehicles? Was the barrier it struck angled in any way that might help deflect the Jeep differently than in other tests? FCA’s comments are of no surprise, but they do raise more questions than what we will likely ever have answers for. If you want to check out the video for yourself, we’ll have the link in the show notes for this episode at JeepTalkshow.com.

A Brand New Jeeper For Life

(Baby born in Jeep on Hartford highway ramp) A 911 call came in around 7:30 p.m. Monday, according to Connecticut state police. The woman was behind the wheel of a gray Jeep Grand Cherokee Laredo, and her daughter was with her in the front passenger seat, …about to have a baby. The recording of the call has been made public, and in it, you hear her say “I’m driving down I-91. My daughter, her water just broke. I’m flying down the highway!” Lori Linares, the state police dispatcher who took the call, mentioned that the soon to be grandmother sounded absolutely frantic, but she was trained on how to handle these kinds of situations. The Jeep was headed south on the highway and the woman driving didn’t think her daughter was going to make it. Thinking there was no other option, she pulled over, with the 911 operator Linares still on the line, so she could wait for troopers and an ambulance to get there. Her daughter, now clearly in the throes of labor, was having none of that plan, and insisted they keep going to the hospital. “She pulls over, 91 south, Exit 33,” Linares said. “We had troopers on the way, but her daughter was yelling at her in the Jeep to keep going. So Grandma took off again.” It’s not long before the grandmother said, “Oh my God…He’s coming out.” Linares calmly gave her directions to pass along to her daughter, telling her to lay back in the front passenger seat. “We don’t want the baby on the floor,” the dispatcher said. Then Linares got another update: The Grandmother, clearly nervous, said “I’m pulling over because I can feel the head,” The grandmother pulled over again, this time on I-84 west at Exit 48, Asylum Street.  She ran around to the passenger side of the Jeep to help her daughter.  Loud screams of agony can be heard in the background, and then Grandma yelled, “He’s out! He’s out! I got him! I got my grandson! Somebody come help me!”  Linares told her to make sure the umbilical cord is not wrapped around the baby’s neck and wrap the baby to keep him warm. The baby’s neck was clear; the only thing the grandmother had to wrap him in was a jacket, but it was better than nothing. There were more tense moments when the baby stopped crying, but it wasn’t long before the shrill sound of a newborn’s cries put everyone at ease, including the police who had just arrived. The baby boy – James — and his mother are OK and are at the Saint Francis Hospital and Medical Center. It was the first time in 25 years as an emergency dispatcher that Linares was able to see through a delivery from start to finish, she said.

8-year-old NC Boy With Autism Gets Surprise Jeep Parade For His Birthday

The Jeep community in Troutman, North Carolina and beyond came together last  Thursday to surprise and help celebrate the birthday of an 8-year-old boy with special needs. Caleb is one of seven siblings and is on the autism spectrum. For his birthday, his family wanted to do something extra special for him. So they put out a plea, asking if anyone who owns a Jeep and is sick of staying home would mind taking a little drive to Troutman to help make their 8-year-old son’s day. In the post, Caleb’s mother said “Even if only one Jeep showed up to drive by, this mom would appreciate it more than you could know!”  Well, not only did one Jeep show up for Caleb’s birthday – more than 100 Jeeps came to his home. Local Troutman police officers were happy to help assist with traffic as Jeep after Jeep after Jeep drove by the little boy’s home. No one was allowed to exit their vehicles, in order to practice social distancing. All drivers were also  told to not honk their horns or make any sudden or loud noises near Caleb’s residence in respect to the neighbors, as well as Caleb’s special needs. The support from the Jeep community on Thursday was a tremendous sight to see, and little Caleb loved every moment.

Jeep Life: 

Where to Wheel

Last episode 435 I shared those “Not Trails” those trails that some don’t consider trails. They can be just as fun as those difficult trails and they are free. SO where else can you take your Jeep off road. Well it depends on where you live. The US East Coast is a lot different to the West Coast. The East is made up mostly of off road parks. Those parks are fun and challenging, but can be expensive. I have been to Rausch Creek Off Road Park and Anthracite Area Outdoor Adventure Both are privately owned and have fees. There can be fees for passengers as well. There are also other places like the Uwharrie OHV Trail system and trails in Virginia where you will need a permit.  The fees change on all of these from year to year so I suggest you check out their websites. There are a lot of wheeling places all along the east coast and midwest. The list of the off road parks are just too many to mention here. Your best bet is to search “off road” in your area or ask your local Jeepers. There used to be public lands on the East Coast years ago but unfortunately those have been taken away from us. As far as the West coast goes… They miles of trails are endless and they are free. I mentioned last week there are some guide books and websites out there to help find the trails. There is also the Jeep Badge of Honor App. It’s an app you can download if you are a Jeep owner. There are several trails across the country you can wheel and earn badges from Jeep. If you want to spend many days in any of these locations your best bet is to camp. With google now a days it’s so easy to find campgrounds. But be aware during busy seasons most campgrounds want you to stay at least 2 nights. As for camping in state parks or national parks or on BLM lands I suggest besides google is the app i-Overlander. For more information on camping options check out my Jeep Life segment on Episode 431.  A bit of warning before you head out on the trails especially on the West Coast. You will need to take weather into consideration. The Rubicon Trail in the winter is not a good idea. Most of the trails in Colorado are closed in the winter for safety reasons. Also sometimes trails are closed because of too much water. It’s a good idea to get to know the area and how they work each set of trail systems in that area. Also some trails have been closed permanently and not longer are available for off roading. There are groups out there that are fighting these BLM closures. And now during this time in our country it’s a good idea to double check the area you are going. A lot of off road parks are closed and some states the areas are only open to locals. I am hoping and praying this changes soon. I know how a Jeeper can get if they haven’t hit those rocky dirt filled trails for a while.

Newbie Nuggets: 

We have a question from one of our listeners, Jerry, who has joined us during our fireside chats. His question is: I’m interested in going on a trail ride. What can I expect? Excellent question Jerry and thank you for your submission. A typical run looks like this: Meet up at a designated location. This is usually centrally located to the group, OR it’s located at the beginning of a trail head. There is normally a time given on when to arrive and a time that the group will leave. Good idea to arrive early, rather than late. Most groups will not wait for latecomers (unless there is an issue or notice). Being new it’s always good to show up early – you get to learn more that way. Once you arrive, if this is a club event or specialty event you may be asked to sign a waiver. This is also a time to meet-n-greet other jeepers and their rigs. If you’ve met at the trailhead, you will also need to air down your tires – depending on the trail (easy vs hard) Remember, sometimes we air-down just to make the ride more comfortable on you and your Jeep, not necessarily for the traction. You can check out episode 431 to get some additional info on tools needed to air down if you are not sure. About 5 minutes before departure time, the trail leader will call a driver’s meeting. The leader will review the trail difficulty and go over any rules of the run. Like no drinking, or making sure when there is a turn you wait for the driver behind you to make sure he/she sees you made the turn, and any other general info. They will also announce the radio frequency for HAM or channel if using CB and a brief idea of the time frame for lunch. Couple of things to keep in mind: If you are new, they will ask and probably place you in the line up behind a more experienced driver. This is a good thing; don’t be shy about your experience or lack of. This is how you will learn. When on the trial, if you, or a passenger need to stop (like for the bathroom), you just need to state you need to stop. Most leaders will stop along the way for jeepers to take a break throughout the run, so if you can hold it till the next stop – I would suggest that option. Drivers meeting will most likely discuss possible obstacles coming up and letting everyone know that they can ask for a spotter. Again, this is not a bad thing, it’s a badge of honor and don’t be afraid to ask for help. Grown men CAN ask for help and directions!!! Once the drivers meeting is adjourned, it’s off and running – well actually it’s back to your jeep and away you go, in the order you were placed, or however it was decided.  During the trail run, you may want to pay attention to the driver in front of you as he/she tackles obstacles, ruts, gullies, etc. Do you like their line? Would you make changes to their line for your jeep or comfort? This IS a great training ground for you to learn and feel comfortable with your jeep. If there is an obstacle, get out and watch. I’ve said it many times; it’s the best way to gain knowledge.  Keep in mind while you’re watching that some people will take a more difficult line just for the added challenge. You may be thinking to yourself “why on earth did they go that way?” YOU always have the option of picking your own line.  At some point during the trip, the group will stop for a lunch break. This can be the best part of the trip, depending on the destination. We’ve had lunch under a big canopy of trees, by a stream or river, on a mountain top with forever views, just to name a few. It’s also a great time to meet other drivers and sit around and enjoy the company of fellow jeepers and listen to their stories, lies and exaggerations.  There are some things to consider packing for your trip in addition to the basic tools we reviewed in episode 426. Chairs – what type and how many. Some places will offer a rock to sit on, but you may be better off with a chair. Folding or smaller chairs are generally best due to limited space in your jeep. You will need an ice chest- it doesn’t need to be the huge one like you use for a week long trip if this is just a day trip, you just need to keep the food and beverages cold. What about traveling with your dog? You will need water and a bowl for your dog and a leash. Not all people enjoy our dogs in their business. Lots of people jeep with their dog and please bring baggies to clean up after your dog. Inevitably, the dog will do its business in the middle of the group sitting. What do you need to bring for your kids? Snacks, games & toys? Consider that adults sitting around conversing during lunch may not be their idea of fun. Another suggestion is to have a bag with extras like paper towels and hand wipes (if you can find them right now), sun screen, bug spray, hats and light jackets and any other extras you may want/need for the day. Extra water and snacks are a good addition too.  It’s really about making your trip comfortable for you.  After lunch the group will continue on their way to the end of the run. This is where you will air up your tires. Hopefully you have an air compressor or other on board equipment like a Powertank to air up, if not, there is generally a fellow jeeper who is willing to help you air back up. Airing up tools should be on your list of “things to add to the jeep” as you start to venture out on trails. This is also a good time to do a quick check under your rig, just to make sure you didn’t leave any parts on the trail or dangling underneath the jeep. Once you are aired up, typically everyone heads out on their own way, unless someone organizes a get together for dinner, or BBQ or ??  I hope this helps those new to organized runs with what to expect when you show up. And thank you again to Jerry for this suggestion. I really enjoyed sharing this information. If you have a topic or suggestion for Newbie Nuggets that you’d like us to talk about, please and let me know. OK team, what other things would you add to the day trip process to help any new drivers.

Must Have Stuff for your Jeep: 


(07-18 JK WRANGLER) $179.95 If you own a 2007-2018 Jeep JK or JKU Wrangler, and it’s still mostly stock, but you want to add a winch because you’ve found yourself getting a little more brave offroad and you want an option to self recover if it comes down to it.  But like most Jeepers, you cringe when you see the prices for a winch bumper. And don’t get me started on the prices for tire carrier bumpers. So what do you do? Don’t fear, because despite what you may have heard or been told, you CAN add a winch to a factory Jeep bumper and do it safely and with reliability. Here’s the bonus, you can do it with basic hand tools, and it costs a fraction of what a full winch bumper will run you.  I present the Rough Country 1162 Winch Mounting Plate. It is specifically designed to work with your factory JK bumper and can accommodate all standard-sized winches! Compare this to similar systems that only allow you to run a specific model or two AND will cost nearly twice as much. So for the ease, flexibility, and price, this is the must have item for adding a winch to a stock bumper of a JK. https://www.roughcountry.com/jeep-jk-winch-mounting-plate-1162c.html

Jeep Weather: 


Hey Jeeper, I’m Mitch and I am a multipotentialite. Today is the 8th of May 2020 and it’s time for your weekend Going Topless-Jeep Weather Report. While most states are getting extended lockdowns and others, like here in California people are straight up going out to beaches, I was thinking of places to go topless that I havent heard about. First up is Boise, Idaho. No clue what’s happening there at all, but weather looks to be good this weekend. Today is 76 and sunny, tomorrow 81 and sunny, and Sunday 86 and partly cloudy. Next, who has heard of what is happening in Eugene, Oregon? Unfortunately, no sports but weather looks like its going to be pretty good. Today sunny and 86, tomorrow is partly cloudy and 83, and Sunday should be about 80 and cloudy. Hopefully no more earthquakes in Utah, but Utah City which has a very imaginative name, has some nice spring weather to take that top off and cruise. Today is sunny and 72, tomorrow is 75 and sunny, and Sunday looks to be partly cloudy and 80. Don’t forget to use the #JeepTalkShow on social media for us to see those pictures. If you have any suggestions or want to know YOUR local weather in an upcoming episode. Go to JeepTalkShow.com/contact in order to find all the ways to get a message to me. I’m Mitch and its always great weekend to Go Topless if you’re brave enough! Just Go Topless responsibly.

Links Mentioned in Episode 436: 


Episode 435 – Sway Bars Cause Death Wobble?


This Week In Jeep:

The Death Wobble Lawsuit Continues

So pretty much ever since the release of the new generation of Wranglers, there has been a resurgence of death wobble complaints. In the beginning it was first deemed more or less normal since this was a solid axle off road vehicle after all. Well then more and more complaints rolled in and from people who were merely test driving a completely bone stock new model Jeep. “Oh it’s probably the steering stabilizer.” they said… “We’ll just do a little recall and take care of that.”  Nope, didn’t work, and the complaints kept coming. It appeared as if the newly redesigned dana front axles were apparently not playing nice with the new Jeep steering and suspension geometry. How dare they! So who’s fault is it?  The axle maker or the automaker using the axle? We may soon find out, since a new lawsuit points the finger at one of Jeep’s subsystems…. but I’m throwing a flag on the play. This week a new class action lawsuit was filed against FCA for allegedly knowing that its sway bar disconnects are faulty, but taking no action to address the issue, and continuing to sell vehicles equipped with the failure-prone systems, all while denying warranty-covered service. Replacing the sway bar disconnect’s control module out of pocket is said to cost upward of $1,500 in parts alone, before labor costs. In this latest case, plaintiff Josh Flores claims he took his 2018 Ram 2500 Power Wagon into various dealers to have his nonfunctional sway bar disconnect system serviced after it failed. He rounded up other owners of FCA products with similar malfunctions to organize the suit, which implicates the following vehicles. 2007-2017 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon (JK and JKU) 2018-2020 Jeep Wrangler Rubicon (JL and JLU) 2020 Jeep Gladiator Rubicon (JT) 2005-2020 Dodge or Ram 2500 Power Wagon For those not in the know…. electronic sway bar disconnects allow the operators of select Dodge, Jeep, and Ram products to disengage and re-engage their vehicles’ sway bars from inside the cabin. Disconnecting the sway bar allows for greater suspension articulation over rough terrain, enhancing off-road capabilities, while reconnecting the sway bar improves on-road handling and stability.  It’s the latter—the reconnecting part (or the lack of it)—that’s at the core of the issue. In theory, electronic sway bar disconnects offer drivers the best of both worlds, but according to the suit, the system’s design puts it at risk of premature failure, even on late-model vehicles.  To all of this …and specifically to the pansy ass plaintiff in this case – who I might add is giving Josh’s a bad name everywhere – is that sway bars or even a lack thereof do not control, dampen, or otherwise have a direct effect on the back and forth forces an axle see’s in the throws of a death wobble. The anit-sway system on any Jeep, albeit connected to the axle, are on pivot points that are attached to the body of the vehicle via links, each with their own pivot points, and are joined by a common bar known as the sway bar, that travels laterally across the vehicle connecting one side to the other. Even though there is a distinct and drastic change in the handling of a Jeep when the sway bars are disconnected, it IS entirely in the realm of BODY ROLL,l or how much sway the body sees as the vehicle goes around a corner. I fail to see how this in any way can be the CAUSE of something like death wobble, which occurs to the AXLE not the body as you travel in a straight line. I have been driving my Jeep for no less than 8 years without any kind of sway bar whatsoever. Not in the front, and not in the rear either. And I’m not talking about merely being disconnected, no no… they’re GONE. In fact removing the rear sway bar was one of the first mods I did to the damn thing nearly 15 years ago. At least two or three of those years were daily driving including lots of freeway speeds without sway bars. In the likely 50 thousand miles or more that Jeep has seen since both sway bars were removed, guess how many times I’ve had death wobble?…..ONCE and it was because I had sheared my track bar off the frame after a rigorous day in the rocks, and had ratchet strapped it together enough to limp home at 40 miles per hour. But not once has the lack of sway bars left me with any feeling of death wobble in any way shape or form.  And if this “Josh Flores” person knew the difference between his ass and a hole in the ground I think we could avoid these misinformation spreading frivolously-filed-fear-mongering-I-need-attention-mommy tells me I’m special and my feelings have been hurt because the truck daddy bought for me isn’t as cool-as-I-want-it-to-be class action lawsuits and the bad reputation they spread. I have half a mind to counter sue this jackass just on principle alone.  Look, driving a vehicle without sway bars is NOT for everyone, and most may consider it unsafe. And to some degree it’s true, it means you have to actually pay attention to what the hell you’re doing, and what’s going on 10 vehicles ahead of you on the freeway. It’s not for the weak willed, the weak minded or anyone who thinks lane departure warning technology is the best thing since sliced bread. I know there are countless Jeepers out there who drive all the time disconnected and have never experienced death wobble either. So if you’re with me, SOUND OFF Jeeper! Call in and let the world know you wheel AND drive disconnected because in the end it’s just a matter of knowing how, and because we can and they just WISH they could!

Big Jeeps Delayed

Just about every automaker around the globe felt the effect in one way or another from the outbreak of the Covid-19 virus. For some it was merely supply chain issues, and for others it was a full scale shut-down. As a result, new vehicles intended to be debuted or released in the coming months have been delayed. Jeep is unfortunately not excluded. In a web based press-release yesterday, FCA said that it would be delaying production of the all new 2021 Jeep Grand Wagoneer and Grand Cherokee by three months. FCA estimates that both vehicles will reach the market sometime in 2021. News of the delays come as FCA, among other automakers, have begun examining ways to resume production across North America and abroad. In the webinar, the manufacturer said that it would progressively restart production at factories in the U.S. and Canada on May 4 and May 18. 

Welder Advice:

I’ve been eyeballing a Hobart 220v MIG welder for a while now.  I have things I need to weld on my Jeep and I have no way to do this!  I know nothing about welding but that won’t stop me from learning.  I need your help.  I’ve decided on the welder but what about the shielding gas?  I’m pretty good at Google searching but Welding Supply doesn’t seem to get me the results I’m looking for.  Also does $380 sound right for a bottle with argon and c o 2? I want to hear from you and we’ll share your comments and recommendations here on the show not only to help me out but some other wanna be welders. Head over to jeeptalkshow.com/contact to find out how to let me know what you think about beginning to weld.

Jeep Life:

Places to Take Your Jeep

In Episode 433 during Campfire Side Chat we talked about everyone’s favorite kind of wheeling. There are so many different places you can take your Jeep. In the sand, the mud, on the rocks, on the beach or on dirt roads, thru water crossing and on the asphalt or even to the mall. And there is no one right answer or wrong answer. I have videos on my YouTube Channel, Jeep Momma .com,  of all the places I have wheeled my Jeep. There are two videos that always seem to get those negative comments… “That’s Not a Real Trail”  well I would have to beg to differ. In my opinion a trail doesn’t have to be difficult with rock obstacles on it… to be a trail. And it’s okay if you only like to wheel those easy trails. We all have different likes and dislikes. While we were at the Roof Top Tent rally hanging with Dan Grec with the Road Chose Me he said something that stuck with me.  During his last adventure in Africa he realized to be more inclusive and we need to do this as Jeep community. To be more accepting of other peoples wheeling preferences.  Just because you don’t rock crawl doesn’t mean you’re not a true Jeeper. During the past 6 months I have found I really enjoy those “Not Real” trails. I still love those adrenaline pumping trails, but to be out in my Jeep checking out the natural beauty of nature does wonders for my soul even if it’s on the black top. So I wanted to share with you some tips. Tips to finding those out of the way “Not Trails”. The first tip… With the hustle and bustle of today’s world… well yesterday’s world, I forgot about those Scenic By-ways my parents used to take us on. So you can just google scenic By-ways and find some really great black top road trips. There is one in Moab and it parallels the Colorado river and is absolutely amazing. Another tip…  if you aren’t in a hurry and you use Google Maps to get to your location, go into your settings and click the avoid toll roads and highways. There could be some cool discovery you might make on these backroads. Neil and I did when we were in Arizona. We discovered Area 66 The actual sight of the alien crash in 1953 before the military scooped up the spacecraft and alien bodies! Another source is Trails Off Road . com This website is cataloging trails all over the US. It will give you information such as length, difficulty, location, elevation, duration, plus a map with waypoints that have directions and mileage.  Another spectacular black top ride is outside of Gunnison, Colorado  Hwy 92 through the Black Canyon National Park. There’s a video of it on my YouTube Channel. If you are afraid of heights or ledges it’s a pretty intense Ride. Mesa Verde National Park in Colorado is another one. It’s said to be one of the most scenic drives.  Some more backroad tips… head over to the official Trans American Trail website. The link will be in our show notes. https://www.transamtrail.com/ The founder Sam has been mapping public backroads and forest roads all over the United States for decades. He still is and is up in the Minnesota area right now mapping. When he originally mapped the roads back in the 80’s they were all gravel, but now some have been paved over time. This trail was originally designed for motorcyclists, but Jeepers have begun to use these trails. It’s a great way to get away from big cities and get a look at America’s country Roads.  You can also hop on Amazon.com and search for Backroads and 4 Wheel drive trails. There are guides for Colorado, Arizona, California, and Moab. These  Guides have tons of photos that show the scenery as well as trouble spots on the trails. There are tips and advice from local experts to help get you through the trails. The trails are BLM approve and are legal routes. These are just a few of the tips I have learned over the past several months as I have begun to adventure outside of the east coast. There are so many other great trails out there I would love for you to share yours!

Tech Talk With Jeep Talk:

Sorry Tammy, But Purple Tint SUCKS!

As someone who worked as a professional in the automotive aftermarket industry for over a decade, and who still does regular vehicle modification work on the side, I can speak with confidence about a topic that many take for granted every day. And that’s window tint. If you own an older Jeep like a YJ Wrangler, and it has tinted glass windows, then chances are that the tint has faded, or has maybe shifted from black to some shade of purple or maybe just has some unsightly bubbles in it. Any purpling, blueing, or bubbling of any kind is a sign that the tint and/or it’s adhesive has broken down and it needs to be removed and replaced. Pretty much all tint will eventually break down in some way, but the quality of the tint will determine how long this will take and to what degree. High quality tint may outlast the vehicle, and low quality tint may not make it ten years. Automotive window tinting is one of those things that is regulated and controlled differently state by state. So I’m going to avoid getting into specifics like percentages, brands, and what windows you can or cannot put a tint on. For information like how dark of tint you can have, or what windows are ok to put how much tint on, I’d recommend talking with your local state patrol, inspection station or local window tinting professional to get the particulars for your state. Ok, now you may not be a window tint pro, and we’ve all seen what those auto parts store supplied back yard tint jobs look like… No thanks! (am i right?) …So we’re going to leave the tinting to those who do it best and offer a warranty behind their work and the films they use. In fact that’s worth talking about because we don’t want you getting screwed. If you think you can do it yourself and it will turn out looking like a million bucks for the life of the rig? Try again. There are tricks of the trade and techniques that you and I can only come close to duplicating, so let’s not screw up the thing that we have to see through every day as we drive. The guys who know what they’re doing and who you can trust, will work with films that offer 10 year or lifetime guarantees against fading or hazing. And any reputable shop should offer a lifetime installation guarantee. If the guy you found on craigslist doesn’t do this, then call someone else. Although the nation’s number one top rated tint manufacturing company is offering pre-cut templates for virtually any vehicle, I would stay away from installers who use these. If something were to happen in either the shipping of the kit, or in the installation, they have to get ingenuitive to make a fix happen, and by that point, you’ll always be able to see it, and the install will forever be compromised. Window tint is actually extremely easy to crease and is fragile before it’s bonded with glass. So anything can happen in between manufacturing and installation. That’s why the installers who use high quality film from a roll are the best to use. If they screw up, it’s on them, and they’ll just take a fresh pull from the roll to re-do said window. Prices are going to vary, as will selection, but stay away from any shop that doesn’t have at least two kinds of film to choose from. Colored, mirrored, and gradient tints will all degrade faster over time than a high quality black or carbon tint. Outside of that I cannot make specific recommendations since things are going to vary so much state by state. I will say this though, if your Jeep doesn’t already have tinted windows, then tinting your Jeep has so many benefits that it is one of those things that you really should consider moving up on your mods list. From UV protection to temperature reduction, and from style points to additional security, having your Jeeps windows tinted has way more pros than it does cons. In the next episode, I’m going to teach you how to save hundreds on your tint job by removing an old, degraded or poorly installed tint from the windows of any vehicle.

Newbie Nuggets:

Finding a place to get your Jeep serviced

At some point you will need to get some work or service done on your jeep. This may be regular maintenance like a lube, oil and filter, tires rotated or maybe even some modifications and fabrication. When you are new to jeeping you may not realize that there are some things to consider as owners of jeeps beyond that of just a regular HWY car.  When you get an oil change on a Jeep, it’s not just an oil change. Your service tech should be checking, ball joints for wear, upper and lower control arm joints, drive shafts, u-joints and any other working part of the suspension for wear, cracks or other signs of fatigue and greasing every spot where there is a grease fitting. Depending on the equipment you’ve added there may be many. I know on our Jeep there are around 20 spots that require grease. If you do any off-roading, your Jeep is subject to a much harsher working environment than just driving down the asphalt. Also, depending on how dusty your travels have been, it’s a really good idea to have your air filter serviced more frequently, like maybe every oil change.  But just how do you go about finding a place that you trust, that does good work and/or knows what they are doing. Here are a few things to look for when deciding what needs to be done and by whom. The first and maybe the most fun is Do-it-yourself. If you are a mechanical kind of person or a gearhead, then by all means do it yourself. It’s fun to tinker and it’s also good to really know/understand your jeep. My husband is particular with our jeep and after every run, he inspects underneath, tightens bolts that may have come loose, and checks to see if there is any wear and tear that needs attention. We also power wash the rig to make sure dirt is clear of moving parts and it’s a good way to look for cracks and fatigue while you’re cleaning them.  Now the do-it-yourselfer will need the correct tools. If you don’t have what you need, you may have to weigh the price of purchasing tools with having it done by someone else. But remember, you only have to buy the tools once and they’re good to have on the trail. Another thing to consider doing it yourself, is what space do you have to work on your jeep? Are you on pavement or dirt, and do you care? This may be an issue if you are trying to get underneath your jeep in the dirt or on rocks. I think any do-it-yourself skills are probably the best. You know your jeep and you have been there and can hear/know when something isn’t quite right.  Just this week we were on the trail and there was a clunking sound coming from the rear (when isn’t there a rattle or clunk on a jeep?). Bill said, “sounds like a shock coming loose”. Sure enough he got underneath, spotted that a bolt had come out at the top and he simply replaced it – on the trail. If you’re working on your Jeep at home, it’s a lot easier for trail repairs when you’re familiar with your own Jeep. On a side note: it’s always a good idea to have a selection of the most common size bolts and nuts.  Another way to get your jeep serviced is to phone a friend. You know the one with all the tools and expertise. This is an option if you are not sure what you are doing and with guidance you can learn. I think gearheads LOVE to work on cars/jeeps and having someone else to share that passion with is probably what drives most of you to tinker. Only concern here is does that “friend” know what they are doing? This is something that may be a trial and error on your part – Did they do a good job or didn’t they. Only time will tell and hopefully you aren’t on a remote trail, but if you are hopefully that friend is there with you to fix the problem they may have helped create. And I hope it’s not too expensive. The third and probably best option for a beginner is to find a quality shop to take your jeep to. But how do you know what shop is quality? How do you know they know what they’re doing? If you don’t have a referral, you need to do some homework. Check out their Yelp reviews and/or ask the group you jeep with if they have used them and for what. NOT all shops are created equal and lots have great intentions, but their staff (the people working on the jeeps) may not have the skill set or experience to do a proper job. Just because they install a lot of lift kits, or bumpers, or lights does not mean they understand the mechanics of how things actually work and how best to maintain them. Have you checked out how and what they fabricate? If the shop has a fabricator on site, chances are they have a good idea how things actually work versus just installing parts that came in a box with a set of instructions. These kinds of shops will typically know what to look for while servicing your Jeep. If it’s just a shop that does quick oil changes for example – move along. Jeeps need and require regular and specific maintenance with oil and lube with an eye towards what’s broken or about to break. We are lucky here in So Calif, as we have (I think) one of the premier jeep shops in Southern California:  All J Products  (http://www.boulderbars.com/) ( FB: All J Products – Big Bear’s Jeep Shop and 4×4) has been servicing Jeeps from all over Southern California for the past 40 years.  Quinn and Heather Thomas have been working on all Jeep models and know all there is to building from the ground up, custom fabrications, to servicing and maintaining jeeps. Their knowledge is extensive and they are great to suggest upgrades when you are ready. I love that they are always working on something and of course always have suggestions for adding to our wish list. It’s pretty common that when we get the jeep serviced, Bill comes back with, “hey…. guess what we can do to the jeep next”… and then I hear $$$ signs LOL Picking a shop can be a hit or miss too. If you can’t get a referral, or find one close to you, you may be limited. Keep in mind that people you ask are always willing to suggest where they have gone because they went there. We have a number of shops in the Southern California area that are popular, but not necessarily good. And of course, it all comes down to the actual tech doing the work. There is always learning through YouTube or videos on line, but I think I would recommend phone a friend with experience that you trust before attempting something beyond basic maintenance if a shop isn’t an option. However, if you are a gearhead, this could be a fun way to spend a weekend, or two. OK Tony, Josh and Tammy: what is your preference on basic maintenance for your jeep – yourself, phone a friend, a street shout-out, or a shop?

Must Have Stuff:

Rugged Ridge A-Pillar Switch Pod Kit with Rocker Switches (2011-18 JK/JKU only) The A-pillar is a long lost area of prime real estate in Jeeps. For years the aftermarket has been making accessories for the part of the vehicle that rests between the windshield and the door frame. It’s a great location for things like switches, gauges, or even small displays. Not to mention it’s the perfect place for a grab handle too! Having switches for auxiliary lighting or other accessories on the A-pillar as opposed to near the shifter makes them easier to access so you won’t have to fumble around to get past the shifters while on the road or out on the trails. No cutting or alteration to the stock interior is needed for this install. The switch pod is textured to match the interior of the 2011-2018 JKs, and has pre-molded cut outs to mount four rocker switches. This kit comes with four rocker switches in addition to the switch pod. One blue, one red, one orange, and one green.  Rugged Ridge backs this kit with a 3 year limited warranty. If you want to match the switches to something you already have, or want a different kind of switch than what this particular kit comes with, then they do offer a version that does not come with switches, for about half the price.

-$69.99 WITH Switches:
-$27.49 WITHOUT Switches:

Camp Fireside Chat:

Water Crossings! Are you like a Navy Seal or The Wicked Witch of The West? Where’s my goggles? Or Where’s the bridge?  We had five visitors around the campfire in addition to Wendy, Tammy Josh and Tony.  You can join too!  Follow us on Facebook to get notifications and how to join each Thursday night.

Jeep Weather: 


Hey Jeeper, in case you forgot, well I’m Mitch and I’m what they call an “essential worker”. Today is the 30th of April 2020 and it’s time for your weekend Going Topless-Jeep Weather Report.  Since most of the country is locked down due to a “global situation”, I figured we would cruise topless in places to look at things. First, we start in Memphis, Tennessee. A city known for rock and blues music, here it will be partly cloudy all weekend with 79 today, 82 tomorrow, and 80 on Sunday. Next, social distance correctly with a buddy out in Elkins, Arkansas. Near some trails and in a state not mentioned often. Cloudy again all weekend, but today is 81, tomorrow 84, and Sunday more 81.  Maybe you just need to get away from everyone and quarantining with your family is driving you crazy, well look no further than Gorman, California. Gorman is right in the middle of the Transverse Mountain Range amongst several off road trails. Today windy at 69, and sunny tomorrow and Sunday at 70 and 69 degrees. Don’t forget to use the #JeepTalkShow on social media for us to see those pictures. If you have any suggestions or want to know YOUR local weather in an upcoming episode. Go to JeepTalkShow.com/contact in order to find all the ways to get a message to me. I’m Mitch and its always great weekend to Go Topless if you’re brave enough! Just Go Topless responsibly.

Links Mentioned in Episode 435: 

Trans America Trail Info: https://www.transamtrail.com/ 

Find New Trails: https://www.trailsoffroad.com/

All J Products: http://www.boulderbars.com/

4 x 4 Radio Network: http://4x4radionetwork.com/

Jeep Momma’s Blog: www.JeepMomma.com

Jeep Momma’s YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/TheJeepMomma

Jeep 4-1-1 https://www.youtube.com/user/backcountrydriver

Jeep Must Have Stuff Pick Of The Week For Your Jeep:

Rugged Ridge A-Pillar Switch Pod Kit with (or w/o) Rocker Switches 

-$69.99 WITH Switches: 


-$27.49 WITHOUT Switches: 


Area 66: https://www.onlyinyourstate.com/arizona/area-51-az/